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Hi Cian, The update and redelivery will not work from 1.7 to 1.8. This is because of the changes of ownership, moving items that come from me instead of from Rez Gray. In SL, IM me, or Syler, or May, or Ru. there is are GTFO Staff boards where you can leave a message. One is at the HQ building on Bruissac. We will get the current hud to you. Cinn

@naomilocket Thank you for pointing that out. I made the change in the database. It now shows as a seaplane, as it should. Cinn

Hi Catriona, Thank you for bringing thi sup. Any VAPI with X- will no longer work. The X- used to be a "sort of beta test" option. When we moved to the new server, Keif created 3 parallel databases for GTFO. One of them is the full BETA test environment. We got rid of all X- codes as VAPIs at that point. When I can get on SL, I will see what is needed so the vehicle has a current, correct VAPI. Cinn

Want to rez a boat or a medium helo on the new continent? You are welcome to use Port Cinnamon. Open Rez, 10 minute return time. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Sutherfield/227/165/27 Happy GTFOing! Cinn

Bedos region for sale. Contact Cinn or Syler for details. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bedos/223/139/37

Hello Anna, I'm glad you opened the topic. I apologize for stopping it for a time last night. It was extremely stressful in my rl for a couple of hours and I reacted. I'm glad to see you posting again on the topic. I've spoken with KittenSue. She and I agree that although a forum is not the easiest to use, it will make a list that sticks in date order so she and I can work together to process VAPI requests as they come in. It is my disorganization that gets the work from her out of order. Having the list as posts in the Vehicles section of the forum should help. We will have 2 threads for VAPI requests in the Vehicles area of the forum. One will be for creators to request a VAPI for a vehicle they are making or have made. The other will be for GTFO Operators who own a mod vehicle which they want to see added to the GTFO vehicles database. I will get Dalton's help moving the existing requests from the HELP thread to the appropriate VAPI request thread. And i'll try to keep them in the order requested. I apologize again for closing this thread for a while last night. I will try to not let stress cause me to have knee-jerk reactions. Thank you again for bringing up this topic and for posting again now that it is re-opened. Cinn

Hello Freighter Nation! I share your frustration with the slowness of adding vehicles to the GTFO database. The first thing we are doing today to address this is to separate the VAPI requests into 2 streams. One stream is for vehicle creators. If you made the vehicle for which you are requesting a VAPI, use the Vehicle Creator stream. The other stream is for GTFO Operators requesting a VAPI for a MOD vehicle which you own. Please edit your VAPI request TITLE with either CREATOR or OPERATOR in the title so we know which stream to move it to. Thank you! Cinn

Hello Anna, Your post brings up more points than you might realize. Thank you for making this a topic of conversation. First, let me affirm what I understand you to be saying. Yes, I rely on Kittensusie Landar to do the initial assessment of any vehicle requesting a VAPI, a code so that it works in GTFO. KittenSue is a hard worker and has lightened my workload with vehicles considerably. Her volunteer work with GTFO is in addition to her designing and leading the weekly Sunday cruise for LCC plus her recurring work with the fly-ins on Saturdays. Second, there is a reason we need to see, and be able to sit in the vehicles requesting a VAPI. I'll add more details as I learn how to blog, but for now, the point is that either KittenSue or I assess the vehicle and determine its size and type, as far as GTFO is concerned. She then does the initial entering of data so that I can do more work in the database while completely off SL. Do hold me to writing more about the history, current processes, and soon to be new processes with GTFO vehicles. Third, vehicle adding is not going to get faster until we are finished implementing the new sizing of vehicles. There are now almost 400 vehicles by 100 creators. That's a lot of vehicles to resize. Maybe the place to write about these topics is here in the forum. Input from the GTFO community will help inform the processes necessary to make vehicle additions faster. Thank you again, Anna, for bringing up this topic. Cinn

Hi Joan, Thank you for sharing this info. I want to be very clear, no one from GTFO is gathering data using bots. And no one using bots to gather data has contacted any of us at GTFO. Furthermore, we do not want generalized data about regions. When we start collecting route data it will be just that, data about how people who do GTFO do their routes. Don't worry, no one's personal information will be collected. We will put virtual dots on the map which show routes taken and where from and to. But if we look at the "dots" after data collection, there is no link back to who ran that route. And before we collect any data, we will make sure everyone is aware of anything being collected and that their privacy is completely in safe with us. Joan, I do see why you would ban these bots. I wish they would not say they are collecting data for GTFO. I will contact Linden Lab to see if they can be stopped, but I have a feeling that they will not do anything about it. Hope we solve the puzzle of who is behind it. Maybe they mean well and we can make some changes and make use of their desire to be helpful. Cinn

hi Anna, You notice correctly that new VAPI requests are not as fast as new hubs. There are a number of factors. Moving to the new server was the first step in cleaning up the data for vehicles. Your post helps me realize that I need to write more about the many things we are doing behind the scenes to improve GTFO. We are working toward a semi-automated adding of HUBs and of VAPIs. for now, we have Admin huds to help the few people who help me add data do so more accurately and quickly than I was able to do them by hand previously. I am close to caught up on the new VAPI additions with our old process. We are experimenting with a new process which, if it works will make adding new vehicles much faster. I'll take your gently nudging as a hint and start writing more about the vehicle VAPI process. There is another interview with Luke Flywalker later today (Saturday 1pm SLT) on his radio station. https://www.spreaker.com/show/hit-the-road-jack_1 Listen in and add questions using either the GTFO group or Drivers of SL, or join us at the Satori crossroads party (http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Varean/7/28/83) and ask in local. The interview is recorded and will be available for playback, too. Good suggestions, Anna. Thank you for sharing them, Cinn

Hi Leal, The survey bot in question does not belong to GTFO. I will see if I can find who owns it and why it says that. I do have plans to collect route data from actual GTFO runs. But I agree, a bot could easily become intrusive. I'll see what I can find out and let you know. Cinn

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Freighter Nation! Post your comments here to give feedback on the newly remodeled Satori Crossroads. (If the comments are negative or hurtful, expect them to vanish!) Questions, comments, suggestions, discussion providing positive critique, healthy discussion, and dialogue are all welcome. SLURL to the Satori Crossroads: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Varean/17/39/83 Come drive around and let us know what you think! Happy GTFOing! Cinn

Good point, Leal, I mis-counted when I did it manually. Changing the name now. Cinn

Hi Leal, Yes, mostly. We need to limit the total number of letters, spaces, and numbers on a hub ID button. The reason for the max number of total letters, numbers, and spaces is if there happens to be a page on the menu with too many buttons with too many letters, lsl (Linden Scripting Language) throws an error and the hud stops working. The simplest way to prevent this is to not have names too long. We set the number at 26 total letters, numbers, and spaces. Many non-alpha characters (symbols) mess with the sql commands. The hyphen is an exception I am willing to risk trying. To make it 26 total characters, what about Blake-Kanto Service Ctr or Blake-Kanto Svc Ctr Let me know, Cinn